Just over 2 years ago I picked an argument with the DWP, one they had no chance of winning.
They sent me an ESA50 (Employment And Support Allowance) form at the end of April 2013 but I had to hand I had a copy of the previous ESA72 which stated on page to that THEY WOULD CONTACT ME AGAIN ON OR AFTER a time in June, around the 20th, so I sent the ESA50 back blank along with a copy of the second page of the ESA72, and a letter of complaint, then 48 hours later I emailed the DWP with a letter of complaint and a copy of page 2 of the ESA72. About 2 weeks later received a letter from the DWP saying they had told ATOS to issue another ESA50, by the time it turned up I had all my answers written and all the supporting evidence prepared, I waited until they sent the reminder letter after 3 weeks to call them and say I needed more time, all delaying tactics as everything had been sitting ready to go for over two weeks, they gave another 14 days, taking the contact after over the date for returning the ESA50.
After I sent the ESA50 back I then got a letter off the DWP saying that they issued the ESA50 around 2 months before the date on the ESA72 so that the person would have an assessment on or about the date on the ESA72.
I did an email to the DWP saying that they were full of bullshit and I would go to court and page 2 of the ESA72 would be the only evidence I would produce. around the 30th July I got a ESA72 from the DWP saying they had placed me in WRAG, again, and page 2 said the same thing, WE WILL CONTACT YOU AGAIN ON OR AFTER 25/7/15 there was, of course the standard bullshit of they could contact sooner, so I sent another email to the DWP saying as the original ESA50 was received at the end of April please supply copy's of the evidence you had to contact me 2 months before the contact on or after date on the original ESA72 and I sent it as a subject access request, after 45 days I sent another email with the subject heading NOTICE OF INTENT TO PROSECUTE They replied to that within 4 days stating they could not find any evidence to send that would be necessary for me to be contacted sooner than the contact on or after date on the ESA72.
I intended to do a freedom of information request for a copy of the ESA72 in 2013 but totally forgot, when I did put in the request it was late 2014 and they had changed the ESA72 and removed the section about contacting ON OR AFTER, it is my opinion that after my threats to the DWP they shit a ton of bricks and reworded the ESA72 from April 2014.
There are still signs on ESA85 reports that they are abusing their power and contacting some people early, and that is the ESA85 saying A RETURN TO WORK IN THE LONGER TERM IS NOT ADVISABLE, that normally means 2 years of ESA so even though an ESA72 doesn't state a contact date people on ESA could email the DWP and say that they have read the ESA85 and it advises THAT A RETURN TO WORK IN THE LONGER TERM IS NOT ADVISABLE so as according to their rules the LONGER TERM is usually 2 years you expect a reply of 2 years from the date on the ESA85 that the DWP decision maker has agreed with and you do not expect to be contacted until 2 years after the date on the report.
At the moment the DWP & MAXIMUS are in meltdown and assessment can be delayed by 12 months, or longer, I was looking forward to sending them another blank ESA50 and copy of the ESA 72 but my contact ON OR AFTER DATE has passed so I now leave it up to those with CONTACT ON OR AFTER DATES, which if I am right, could go into 2017, or at least the end of March 2016 to take what action they believe is right for them.
The above story was told to me by another person, who said I could print it if I changed it to as if it was me that had gone through it so any DWP Muppet who thinks they can harass me by this been posted think again because it's not me personally who told this I am just the storyteller not the person who made the DWP and all the top Muppets shit bricks!
They sent me an ESA50 (Employment And Support Allowance) form at the end of April 2013 but I had to hand I had a copy of the previous ESA72 which stated on page to that THEY WOULD CONTACT ME AGAIN ON OR AFTER a time in June, around the 20th, so I sent the ESA50 back blank along with a copy of the second page of the ESA72, and a letter of complaint, then 48 hours later I emailed the DWP with a letter of complaint and a copy of page 2 of the ESA72. About 2 weeks later received a letter from the DWP saying they had told ATOS to issue another ESA50, by the time it turned up I had all my answers written and all the supporting evidence prepared, I waited until they sent the reminder letter after 3 weeks to call them and say I needed more time, all delaying tactics as everything had been sitting ready to go for over two weeks, they gave another 14 days, taking the contact after over the date for returning the ESA50.
After I sent the ESA50 back I then got a letter off the DWP saying that they issued the ESA50 around 2 months before the date on the ESA72 so that the person would have an assessment on or about the date on the ESA72.
I did an email to the DWP saying that they were full of bullshit and I would go to court and page 2 of the ESA72 would be the only evidence I would produce. around the 30th July I got a ESA72 from the DWP saying they had placed me in WRAG, again, and page 2 said the same thing, WE WILL CONTACT YOU AGAIN ON OR AFTER 25/7/15 there was, of course the standard bullshit of they could contact sooner, so I sent another email to the DWP saying as the original ESA50 was received at the end of April please supply copy's of the evidence you had to contact me 2 months before the contact on or after date on the original ESA72 and I sent it as a subject access request, after 45 days I sent another email with the subject heading NOTICE OF INTENT TO PROSECUTE They replied to that within 4 days stating they could not find any evidence to send that would be necessary for me to be contacted sooner than the contact on or after date on the ESA72.
I intended to do a freedom of information request for a copy of the ESA72 in 2013 but totally forgot, when I did put in the request it was late 2014 and they had changed the ESA72 and removed the section about contacting ON OR AFTER, it is my opinion that after my threats to the DWP they shit a ton of bricks and reworded the ESA72 from April 2014.
There are still signs on ESA85 reports that they are abusing their power and contacting some people early, and that is the ESA85 saying A RETURN TO WORK IN THE LONGER TERM IS NOT ADVISABLE, that normally means 2 years of ESA so even though an ESA72 doesn't state a contact date people on ESA could email the DWP and say that they have read the ESA85 and it advises THAT A RETURN TO WORK IN THE LONGER TERM IS NOT ADVISABLE so as according to their rules the LONGER TERM is usually 2 years you expect a reply of 2 years from the date on the ESA85 that the DWP decision maker has agreed with and you do not expect to be contacted until 2 years after the date on the report.
At the moment the DWP & MAXIMUS are in meltdown and assessment can be delayed by 12 months, or longer, I was looking forward to sending them another blank ESA50 and copy of the ESA 72 but my contact ON OR AFTER DATE has passed so I now leave it up to those with CONTACT ON OR AFTER DATES, which if I am right, could go into 2017, or at least the end of March 2016 to take what action they believe is right for them.
The above story was told to me by another person, who said I could print it if I changed it to as if it was me that had gone through it so any DWP Muppet who thinks they can harass me by this been posted think again because it's not me personally who told this I am just the storyteller not the person who made the DWP and all the top Muppets shit bricks!
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